Performance Reviews of 150 Gr Ttsx From a 300 Win Mag on Deer
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150 Gr TTSX-308 Win(or other non pb loads)
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I am looking for a pb free option later on blowing up an Accubond on a deer last year. (Not the accubonds mistake: it was an 180gr hitting a hip at 3100fps) But the corporeality of pb that moved some distance from the wound fabricated me think of switching to lead gratuitous for killing stuff my kids eat.
My concern is that out of an 18" barrel I will be running around 2650-2700 out of the muzzle and will be below 2000fps at 350-400.
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Think most the 130s, they open up at lower velocities and can be pushed faster. I worked upwards a reduced load using 4895 for my son in his .308 and he put ane through a very large cow elk this year with good results. That is only 1 data point, tho.
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I've shot whitetail with 280 Rem 110gr solids with swell effect. Three data points...all DRT.
I've shot one 250 lb Axis deer with 7mmRM 139 GMX...DRT.
All-time to go light for caliber with solids.
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For a brusk-barreled .308, I think that the starting time few posters in this thread are spot-on. The 130'southward volition likely do everything you need on deer or similar game under 400 pounds as long as y'all make certain that they are still moving fast (2500 FPS or so?) when they impact. I would be VERY hesitant to rely on copper monolithic to expand beneath 2300 FPS unless it was i of the flat olfactory organ/open tip models. I've heard that they are designed to expand more readily at moderate velocities.
I know that you were concerned nigh the accubond bravado upward on you - but if information technology hit at 3100 FPS, information technology probably wasn't out of a .308. If it was, I'd like your load data delight
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OH hey! Cool to know! I picked upward some CFE223 to endeavor using for the 70gr TTSX .223's! Absurd to know of use for .308 besides, crawly!I'grand currently working upwardly a load with 150gr TTSX and CFE223. The node for me was at 2900fps out of a m70 featherweight with a 22 inch barrel. When I started to run into pressure I was pushing only over 3000fps. Out of an 18 in butt you should be able to hit 2800-2850 with no problemsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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OH hey! Cool to know! I picked up some CFE223 to attempt using for the 70gr TTSX .223's! Absurd to know of utilise for .308 likewise, awesome!
Ane word of caution is that CFE223 is supposed to be temperature sensitive, makes sense since it's a ball powder, so I would be careful with using max loads on days significantly warmer than when you did your load development. What I have read on the web suggests roughly 1fps per caste...
That being said terminal time I was at the range I did a ten load OCW work up and started with i shot from each charge weight (low to loftier) and then shot the remaining 3 of each charge starting at the max and working my style back downwards. Over the session the temp probably increased roughly fifteen-20 degrees. Even so several of the lower accuse weights all the same had an SD in the single digits and ES less than xv. I would have expected larger SD/ES values due to temp swing.
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I burned a couple # of it through an AR concluding twelvemonth. That shit is greasy! I am curious about information technology in a 308. I will encounter if I accept any laying around still.One word of circumspection is that CFE223 is supposed to be temperature sensitive, makes sense since information technology'due south a ball pulverization, then I would be careful with using max loads on days significantly warmer than when you did your load development. What I accept read on the spider web suggests roughly 1fps per caste...That being said last time I was at the range I did a ten load OCW piece of work upwards and started with ane shot from each charge weight (low to high) and and then shot the remaining 3 of each charge starting at the max and working my way back down. Over the session the temp probably increased roughly 15-xx degrees. However several of the lower charge weights still had an SD in the single digits and ES less than fifteen. I would have expected larger SD/ES values due to temp swing.
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This post has me thinking. I've killed a ton of critters with an Accubond out of my 300 and 270. Possibly I will give the 165gr another go this season out of the 308. It should be pretty tame out of that gun at 2650; even up shut in the north wood. Maybe I should wait at something different in my 300?I've had infrequent success with the 168 grain TTSX out of my .308 and the 150 grain TSX (apartment nose/apartment base of operations) out of my .thirty-30. I think that part of that was due to the fact that all of the shots were inside 100 yards, pregnant that there was still plenty of velocity.For a short-barreled .308, I think that the first few posters in this thread are spot-on. The 130's volition probable do everything y'all demand on deer or similar game under 400 pounds every bit long equally you make sure that they are still moving fast (2500 FPS or and so?) when they impact. I would be VERY hesitant to rely on copper monolithic to expand below 2300 FPS unless it was 1 of the flat olfactory organ/open up tip models. I've heard that they are designed to expand more readily at moderate velocities.
I know that you were concerned nigh the accubond blowing up on you - merely if information technology hit at 3100 FPS, information technology probably wasn't out of a .308. If it was, I'd like your load data please
Those Accubonds practise shoot....
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The 168 ttsx is actually a LRX and opens to lower velocity, added do good in comparison to the 165.
This is true, I've talked with multiple people at Barnes, their minimum expansion velocities are 1800 for the 165 and 1500 for the 168s. I would even so recommend limiting range to wherever you hit 2200 FPS with the 165s and 2000fps with the 168s.
I retrieve what Barnes quotes every bit minimal expansion is where the petals have opened Only plenty then that it is 150% of bullet diameter... yous can search the web but information technology looks like a little "+" on the tip. Nothing like their advertisements and far from what I would consider minimum. I retrieve they recommended 200fps over minimum for total but I would at least double that as a condom factor.
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